Wolfram Alpha destroys 23andMe’s Strategic Advantage? Huh?

May 18th, 2009 by Andrew Yates

Steve: Wolfram Alpha destroys 23andMe’s Strategic Advantage?

No.

Long answer: Huh? Alpha is Mathematica in a web browser search box. That’s cool. I like Mathematica. It would be cool if I could query Mathematica from a free REST HTTP API. If you don’t know what Mathematica is, and you don’t know what all three of those acronyms mean, then Wolfram Alpha isn’t for you. I don’t know what the connection is between Alpha and 23andMe other than Alpha featured a nice DNA sequence viewer in its demo screencast.

23andMe’s “Strategic Advantages” are:

A solid team with deep connections to people who actually know how to get stuff done and have plenty of money to make that stuff happen.
Brand.
Years of paying customers.

I don’t see how the existence of “web Mathematica” Wolfram Alpha addresses any of these points. I do see how this is a symptom of acute BIZDEV! poisoning. Limit Twitter intake and solve at least one math equation before bedtime and call the office if you continue to experience symptoms.

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They'll need to do better than this: http://www96.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=rs429358

Wolfram|Alpha also only has access to publicly available data. Access to all of the *abstracts* in PubMed isn't going to obviate the need for human curators any time soon.

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Yah, I don't get the hype. First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. It will be hard work, clever design, and complex mathematics, and if it seems "magic" to you, that's only because you didn't care to learn how it worked.

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One of the big advantages to 23andme is distilling knowledge.

I know how to do web research, read scientific studies, and understand complex statistical data. But I don't have time to read 20 studies for each of my SNPs, track refutations and replications, etc. Wolfram Alfa will not change this.

The Sherpa is confusing his desires with reality.

Btw, I noticed that Wolfram Alpha provided interpretation of LDL test results in the linked video. Clearly they are on the cusp of practicing medicine.

Oh, and one last thing: have you seen their legal Terms of Service???
Have fun using it!
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/1...

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Agree with anon in regards to the ability to decode LDL tests - really cool.

Ultimately it would be awesome to upload my 20k genes to a tool that can employ some sort of AI (ie markovmodel?) and find out if I have markers for disease and furthermore show relevant publications etc about those markers. If not Wolfram then someone else will probably do this. I don't see why 23andMe couldn't...

-anar

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mikailov there is more human intelligence, than AI but perhaps http://www.promethease.com is something like what you imagine

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Wow, great site!

thanks Cariaso

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Wolfram Alpha is a good news in the area of search engines. It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine.

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I like Wolfram Alpha. It offers a completely new way of searching for information.

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That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish.

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Yah, I don't get the hype. First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people).

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It would be cool if I could query Mathematica from a free REST HTTP API. If you don’t know what Mathematica is, and you don’t know what all three of those acronyms mean, then Wolfram Alpha isn’t for you

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Wolfram alpha is great but surely it is not going to replace anything - it will merely provide more tools to learn.

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Just known this info and looks like its more on the essence of math in our day to day lives. A common affair I may say so. Hmmm, quite interesting to further the knowledge.

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Wolfram Alpha is a good news in the area of search engines. It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine.

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It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine.

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. First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish.

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Wolfram|Alpha also only has access to publicly available data. Access to all of the *abstracts* in PubMed isn't going to obviate the need for human curators any time soon.

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One of the good things that I thought existed with 23andMe is that they have a nice agnostic platform which aggregates information on certain SNPs, similar but not the same as SNPedia........Let's face it, any knuckle head can do the social networking. But the hard work was the data aggregation......
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An immediate help is worth our applause. Better to improve the study.

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A lot of negative feedback here. Its simple as if you do not know or not a techie on navigating Mathematica, then W. Alpha is not for you.

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First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. It will be hard work, clever design, and complex mathematics, and if it seems "magic" to you, that's only because you didn't care to learn how it worked.

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Think Gene Home About Think Gene Web Tools Bio News Bio Opinion	a bio blog about genetics, genomics, and biotechnology Wolfram Alpha destroys 23andMe’s Strategic Advantage? Huh? May 18th, 2009 by Andrew Yates Steve: Wolfram Alpha destroys 23andMe’s Strategic Advantage? No. Long answer: Huh? Alpha is Mathematica in a web browser search box. That’s cool. I like Mathematica. It would be cool if I could query Mathematica from a free REST HTTP API. If you don’t know what Mathematica is, and you don’t know what all three of those acronyms mean, then Wolfram Alpha isn’t for you. I don’t know what the connection is between Alpha and 23andMe other than Alpha featured a nice DNA sequence viewer in its demo screencast. 23andMe’s “Strategic Advantages” are: A solid team with deep connections to people who actually know how to get stuff done and have plenty of money to make that stuff happen. Brand. Years of paying customers. I don’t see how the existence of “web Mathematica” Wolfram Alpha addresses any of these points. I do see how this is a symptom of acute BIZDEV! poisoning. Limit Twitter intake and solve at least one math equation before bedtime and call the office if you continue to experience symptoms. Comments Tags: 23andme, genesherpa, steven murphy, wolfram alpha Add New Comment Subscribe: This Thread Go to: My Comments · Community Page Sort thread by: Viewing 24 Comments Thanks. Your comment is awaiting approval by a moderator. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address Anonymous 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. They'll need to do better than this: http://www96.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=rs429358 Wolfram\|Alpha also only has access to publicly available data. Access to all of the abstracts in PubMed isn't going to obviate the need for human curators any time soon. reply edit reblog flag Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Andrew Yates 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Yah, I don't get the hype. First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. It will be hard work, clever design, and complex mathematics, and if it seems "magic" to you, that's only because you didn't care to learn how it worked. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/drewyates/ /people/drewyates/following/ http://thinkgene.com Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address anon 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. One of the big advantages to 23andme is distilling knowledge. I know how to do web research, read scientific studies, and understand complex statistical data. But I don't have time to read 20 studies for each of my SNPs, track refutations and replications, etc. Wolfram Alfa will not change this. The Sherpa is confusing his desires with reality. Btw, I noticed that Wolfram Alpha provided interpretation of LDL test results in the linked video. Clearly they are on the cusp of practicing medicine. Oh, and one last thing: have you seen their legal Terms of Service??? Have fun using it! http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/1... reply edit reblog flag Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address mikailov 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Agree with anon in regards to the ability to decode LDL tests - really cool. Ultimately it would be awesome to upload my 20k genes to a tool that can employ some sort of AI (ie markovmodel?) and find out if I have markers for disease and furthermore show relevant publications etc about those markers. If not Wolfram then someone else will probably do this. I don't see why 23andMe couldn't... -anar reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/mikailov/ /people/mikailov/following/ Parent Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address cariaso 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. mikailov there is more human intelligence, than AI but perhaps http://www.promethease.com is something like what you imagine reply edit reblog flag http://www.snpedia.com/ Parent Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address mikailov 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Wow, great site! thanks Cariaso reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/mikailov/ /people/mikailov/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address introspective 8 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Wolfram Alpha is a good news in the area of search engines. It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine. reply edit reblog flag http://www.my-introspective.com/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address Biz 7 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. I like Wolfram Alpha. It offers a completely new way of searching for information. reply edit reblog flag http://www.biz-development.com/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Managed Hosting 4 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/Managed_Hosting/ /people/Managed_Hosting/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address FTA Files 3 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Yah, I don't get the hype. First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). reply edit reblog flag 2 /people/Fta_Files/ /people/Fta_Files/following/ http://www.ftavip.com Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address AdvanceLoan.net 3 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. thanks a lot for your valuable sharing ,right from the beginning till end it was really very informative .i can witness the experience and steps you have taken to accomplish this wonderful work. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/jdhakjsdh/ /people/jdhakjsdh/following/ http://www.advanceloan.net Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Quality Leaflet Printing 3 months ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. It would be cool if I could query Mathematica from a free REST HTTP API. If you don’t know what Mathematica is, and you don’t know what all three of those acronyms mean, then Wolfram Alpha isn’t for you reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/Quality_Leaflet_Printing/ http://www.print-print.co.uk/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address WindowsBlinds 1 month ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Wolfram alpha is great but surely it is not going to replace anything - it will merely provide more tools to learn. window blinds reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/WindowsBlinds/ /people/WindowsBlinds/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Hampers 3 weeks ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Just known this info and looks like its more on the essence of math in our day to day lives. A common affair I may say so. Hmmm, quite interesting to further the knowledge. reply edit reblog flag 4 /people/Hampers/ /people/Hampers/following/ http://www.bradfordsbakers.com Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address north carolina outer banks 2 weeks ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Wolfram Alpha is a good news in the area of search engines. It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/northcarolinaouterbanks/ http://www.outerbanksgirl.com/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Miami Dolphins Jerseys 2 weeks ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. It has some advantages compared to the other search engines. Still, it is not the competition to Google or other search engines, since it uses totally different approach. It is more like dictionary or encyclopedia than search engine. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/MiamiDolphinsJerseys/ /people/MiamiDolphinsJerseys/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Rebecca Rubin 2 weeks ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. . First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/RebeccaRubin/ /people/RebeccaRubin/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block email Block IP address Penny Stock Picks 1 week ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. Wolfram\|Alpha also only has access to publicly available data. Access to all of the abstracts in PubMed isn't going to obviate the need for human curators any time soon. reply edit reblog flag http://www.momentumstockpicks.com/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address valentines day gifts 1 week ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. A cool strategy for an easy securing of remedy. reply edit reblog flag 5 /people/valentines/ /people/valentines/following/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address replacement 1 week ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? Log in and claim this comment. One of the good things that I thought existed with 23andMe is that they have a nice agnostic platform which aggregates information on certain SNPs, similar but not the same as SNPedia........Let's face it, any knuckle head can do the social networking. But the hard work was the data aggregation...... 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First, give Alpha a few years before expecting a more than a free Mathematica web prompt (which is cool itself, but unless you need to solve a complex equation, it's not relevant to most people). Second, Alpha has an API, and they'll probably sell access to their engine for your own data sets. That's also cool, but you'd still have to generate and administrate the data. Alpha would only be a data viewer and linker ---again, useful, but it's not "Magic." It's not going to magically "decode your DNA" using "AI" or any such rubbish. It will be hard work, clever design, and complex mathematics, and if it seems "magic" to you, that's only because you didn't care to learn how it worked. reply edit reblog flag 1 /people/articledirectory420/ /people/articledirectory420/following/ http://www.articlemonkeys.com/ Permalink Admin Remove Post Block username Block email Block IP address Life in London 8 hours ago 1 point Please login to rate. Do you already have an account? 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